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Mid Councils Newsletter, August 24, 2015


mid councils newsletter, third edition,fifth issue

Musings from the Road
Stated Clerk/Exec List
New Advanced Search Feature on CLC
Eastern Oregon Presbytery Video
2015 Preaching Pastors' Conference
AMCL & ASC Annual Meeting
Polity Conference and Fall Meetings 2015

musings from the road

I took a week off after the Big Tent and did lots of driving with my husband through North Carolina and then back across six states in one day to get home in time for him to conduct a wedding. We passed lots of college campuses. Being on vacation at the beach while it was pouring rain for a couple of days also gave me time to watch some daytime television that I do not usually see. There were lots of ads for various kinds of higher education.

college campus

When you think about college or university, what do you think about? As a small group at the mid council consultation who heard me sing the first verse of the University of Illinois fight song rather robustly could guess, I first think of the campus in Champaign/Urbana, Illinois. It is the kind of campus that is often portrayed in movies. It has a huge central area called the “quad” surrounded by red brick buildings and towering trees. It is a sprawling campus as well. I remember being cautioned in orientation that, when signing up for classes, one had to be aware of how long it would take to travel from one building to another in the time allotted. Not every classroom building could be reached from another one in time for the very next class period.

I also remember the rules about how long you had to wait for your instructor to show up if they were not present when the class began. As I recall, we had to wait 10 minutes for a teaching assistant or assistant professor, 15 minutes for an associate professor, and 20 minutes for a full professor. I especially remember in my Shakespeare class that all of us would be sitting there with our fingers crossed after about 17 minutes of waiting for the professor when he would, disappointingly, show up.

Perhaps this has brought back some of your own memories from college or university. Perhaps we had similar experiences. Everything that happened with regard to obtaining my undergraduate degree happened on that campus. The university was the magnet to which I was drawn and then attached for the required number of credit hours if I wanted to obtain a degree. All of the details had to do with the convenience and historical practices of the university. I either did it their way or did not receive the coveted degree.

Some of the college campuses we passed on our trip would be very similar to the University of Illinois. But, if the television ads I saw are any indication, even the most staid and traditional campuses no longer expect every one of their students to show up on campus at the convenience of the professors and staff in order to become a graduate of that institution. There are campuses that offer classes at odd hours—even when second shift workers are available late at night and overnight. There are campuses that have both the traditional kinds of classes as well as classes that are offered online and degree programs that can be tailored to the needs of the student. There are campuses that have no physical presence any more—they are only online.

When I think about my campus experience as an undergraduate, one of the closest analogies in my life would be my experience as a child and then member of a large, downtown Presbyterian church. Worship was at a certain time (actually two certain times) on Sunday morning. You either showed up at the church building then or you waited until the next week. Youth group was on Sunday evening at the church building (with the occasional venture to a farm for a hayrack ride or an overnight retreat at Stronghold Camp). The church building was the magnet to which I was drawn and then attached if I wanted to be part of the life of that church.

Colleges and universities have made the switch to adapt to new forms of communication, new ways of interacting, new needs of its students and have, thereby, redefined themselves and redefined their student bodies. Have the congregations within your sphere of influence done the same?

It reminds me of this old story. There were many companies that, one hundred years ago, delivered ice to people’s homes. The house my grandmother lived in (and which is now owned by my brother) still had a built in “ice box” near the back door when I was a child. When my grandparents first moved into that house in the 1920s, they would put a sign in their front window to let the ice man know whether or not he should stop and make a delivery. Times changed. Many ice companies went out of business once refrigeration became the norm. But, there is a refrigeration company that was once an ice company. Instead of defining itself as only an ice company, it defined itself as a “keeping food cold” company and made the switch. Colleges and universities have, to a great degree, stopped defining themselves as campuses on which we educate people and realized they are institutions that educate people in the ways that make most sense in this time and place. Will churches be able to stop defining themselves as buildings with services that occur only in that building or will they be able to remember that they are in the “gospel delivery business?”

—Sue Krummel


stated clerk/exec list

From time to time we get inquiries about presbyteries where the stated clerk and the executive presbyter (or near equivalent) is the same person. Below is the list of those presbyteries as of 7/23/14. (You might also be interested to know that there are six synods in which this is the case.)

Blackhawk                    John Rickard
Central Florida            Dan Williams
Cherokee                      Rebecca Blackwell
Coastal Carolina         William Reinhold
Des Moines                 Phil Barrett
Donegal                       Erin Cox-Holmes
Eastern Korean          Moongil Cho
Foothills                      Gordon Raynal
Glacier                         Marsha Anson
Great Rivers               Felipe Martinez
Holston                       Rich Fifield
The James                  Carson Rhyne
Kendall                       Ron Lavoie
Lake Huron                Ted McCulloch (acting ep)
Long Island                Mark Tammen
Los Ranchos               Forrest Claasen (co-exec with Tom Cramer)
Miami Valley              Dennis Piermont (acting stated clerk)
Mississippi                  Steve Puryear
New Harmony            Bruce Ford
New Hope                   Ted Churn
North Alabama          Tammy Gregory Brown
North Central Iowa   David Feltman
Northern Kansas        Edward Thompson
Northern Plains          Michael Lochow (acting head of staff)
Northumberland        William Knudsen
Prospect Hill               John Pehrson
Redwoods                    Robert Conover
St. Andrew                  Greg Goodwiller
San Joaquin                Sandy Brown
Santa Fe                       Sallie Watson
Savannah                     Russell Gladding
Shenango                     Ralph Hawkins
South Alabama           Samford Turner
South Louisiana         Ron Sutto


new advanced search feature on clc

CLC has updated the system to support local searches for Interim, Supply and other temporary pastoral positions not listed on the CLC Opportunity Search.  The Advanced Search feature identifies church professionals who meet the position type, experience level, salary requirements and geographical choice that congregations are seeking.  The purpose of advanced searches is not to replace the Ministry Information Form (MIF). Rather the purpose is to support local searches for positions that are temporary.  Although, the Advanced Search matching provides a list of names for local positions, it does not match for leadership competencies and other compatibility factors that are essential to a MIF. 

Only the presbytery executive or persons serving in this role can request an Advanced Search match through the CLC system. To support the privacy of call seekers and the integrity of the search process, only CLC staff can conduct an Advanced Search.  Advanced searches should only be requested for local positions where there is a current position open and a job description is available to send to call seekers.  Referrals can be accessed on the CLC system using the presbytery executive menu under reports. 

To request an advanced search match, contact CLC staff at or call 888-728-7228 ext. 8550.  Please contact CLC if you have questions.


eastern oregon presbytery video

Here is a note and a link from Pete Wells, the Stated Clerk of Eastern Oregon Presbytery.

We in Eastern Oregon sometimes think folks from larger presbyteries don't understand the distances we travel to do our work.  We have made this 40 minute video tour showing each of the ministries of the Eastern Oregon Presbytery.   If you or others want some less intense activity after Big Tent, you may want a brief introduction to our varied landscape and our places of ministry.  Some prone to motion sickness may want to only watch short segments.


2015 preaching pastors' conference

Click here for information regarding the Preaching Pastors' Conference to be held October 5-7, 2015 at Zephyr Point.


2015 amcl & asc meeting

Click here for information regarding the AMCL and ASC 2015 Annual Meeting to be held October 9-11, 2015 in Portland, OR.


registration now open for polity conference and fall meetings 2015

Polity Conference 2015

Polity Conference takes place October 11-12 in Portland.

The five concurrent conferences this year run October 9-11 and include: Association of Mid Council Leaders, Association of Stated Clerks, New Stated Clerks’ Orientation, Synod Committee on Representation Training, and Moderator’s Conference.

Registration is now open.


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